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How strong is goten and trunks?; How strong is goten and trunks using piccolo levels
Topic Started: Aug 29 2016, 01:38 AM (3,909 Views)
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How strong is goten and trunks using piccolo levels of power?


Are they strong as

Piccolo at the beginning of the android sega? This is piccolo that frough Dr hero. And I have this piccolo around ssj goku namek level.

Piccolo who fuse with Kami which who was a bit stronger the android 17.

Piccolo that came out the time chamber which I believe was strong as Assj vegeta or semi perfect cell level.

Or

Piccolo doing the buu arc which I believe was on Mssj or a bit lower.

Were do you guy's place him?
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Base Goten/Trunks ~ Piccolo (post-Kami fusion)
SSj Goten/Trunks > Piccolo (Boo Saga)

Simple enough for me.
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Aug 29 2016, 01:40 AM
Base Goten/Trunks ~ Piccolo (post-Kami fusion)
SSj Goten/Trunks > Piccolo (Boo Saga)

Simple enough for me.
On the movie I seen it said they was around full power Frieza which will put him around piccolo that beat Dr gero.


Unless you mean goten and trunks that came out the time chamber.

And what make you think they stronger then buy arc piccolo. Were your proof for that?


And didn't beerus say goku base form was weaker then frieza?
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The kids (base) are below 100% Freeza because 100% Freeza> Base Saiyans in Z.

ssj Kids had trouble against 18. So that implies 18>ssj Kids.


So

Both of them are below Kamicollo in the Tournament Arc @ least. lol
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Aug 29 2016, 02:43 AM
The kids (base) are below 100% Freeza because 100% Freeza> Base Saiyans in Z.

ssj Kids had trouble against 18. So that implies 18>ssj Kids.


So

Both of them are below Kamicollo in the Tournament Arc @ least. lol
So that should put them in between kamicollo and the piccolo who beat Dr gero.

Roast should have got they ssj at 16-Assj level
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SSJ kids never had trouble with 18. They purposefully held back power and that weakened blast scared her so much that she resorted to using an attack that could've killed them.
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Aug 29 2016, 02:49 AM
SSJ kids never had trouble with 18. They purposefully held back power and that weakened blast scared her so much that she resorted to using an attack that could've killed them.
No she was more afraid of the fight getting out of hand. Which it would have. She wasn't trying her hardest either.
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She used an attack that literally would've cut the kids in half if they didn't line up the way they did. They held back power purely for the sake of not hurting 18 and it still completely freaked her out.

I mean, there's probably better, less risky ways she could've handled that if she really was around their level of power.
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They had trouble in a sense that they couldn't beat 18 as they hoped. She was suppressed when they were fighting in base, and this was confirmed when she noticed them become ssj.


Last time she fought a ssj, it was Android Arc ssj Vegeta. So that was the measuring base so to speak. But when they fired a suppressed ki blast @ her, did she realize that they were stronger than ssj Android Arc Vegeta and raised her ki to dodge the blast. This was confimed with her look after the blast. Or somewhere close to that area of power. So she decides to finish it fast and throw a kienzan @ them as she couldn't handle the fight as easy as she had hoped. lol
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Aug 29 2016, 02:58 AM
She used an attack that literally would've cut the kids in half if they didn't line up the way they did. They held back power purely for the sake of not hurting 18 and it still completely freaked her out.

I mean, there's probably better, less risky ways she could've handled that if she really was around their level of power.
What do a disk have to do with her usinging her full power. If they was someone she didn't know they could had blower up the Stadium
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I agree with the Daiz that the Base Kids and #18 are about equal.

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On the movie I seen it said they was around full power Frieza which will put him around piccolo that beat Dr gero.

The 2008 OVA is non-canon.

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Unless you mean goten and trunks that came out the time chamber.

I don't have them getting much stronger in there, so it doesn't matter.

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And what make you think they stronger then buy arc piccolo. Were your proof for that?

So much: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8766672&t=8418903

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And didn't beerus say goku base form was weaker then frieza?

BOG/ROF/DBS is all non-canon horse manure disconnected from the original manga as far as I'm concerned.
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Aug 29 2016, 03:12 AM
I agree with the Daiz that the Base Kids and #18 are about equal.
It just means she was equal to them when she was fighting them @ their base forms, not overall. She was suppressed and the manga confirms it when she smiles when they turn ssj & her statement. lol
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Aug 29 2016, 03:17 AM
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Aug 29 2016, 03:12 AM
I agree with the Daiz that the Base Kids and #18 are about equal.
It just means she was equal to them when she was fighting them @ their base forms, not overall. She was suppressed and the manga confirms it when she smiles when they turn ssj & her statement. lol
So they base form is strong as piccolo who beat Dr gero. And as a ssj they are in between ssj vegeta and kami piccolo. That sound about right?
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Amerson26
Aug 29 2016, 03:22 AM
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Aug 29 2016, 03:17 AM
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Aug 29 2016, 03:12 AM
I agree with the Daiz that the Base Kids and #18 are about equal.
It just means she was equal to them when she was fighting them @ their base forms, not overall. She was suppressed and the manga confirms it when she smiles when they turn ssj & her statement. lol
So they base form is strong as piccolo who beat Dr gero. And as a ssj they are in between ssj vegeta and kami piccolo. That sound about right?
It would have to be the smallest SSJ multiplier in history for that to work.

Edit: Unless you mean Cell Games Piccolo.
Edited by Slifer, Aug 29 2016, 03:26 AM.
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